Pivot Points – Recovery Is For Those Who Do It, with Matt Nannis

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
When young people in recovery return to use, we often hear phrases like “failure to launch,” “regression,” or the suggestion that “recovery is only for those who want it.” Today’s guest, Matt Nannis, says it’s time to abandon these concepts altogether.

Matt’s journey from his own addiction to being the founder of the PIVOTPoint Program looked a little different than a typical recovery story. He didn’t “do the work” in treatment to stop using substances, find a more fulfilling life, or heal relationships with his friends and family – he just wanted better snacks and more privileges. 

Matt’s experience isn’t all that different from others who eventually pursue treatment, which tells us maybe we should rethink some of the things we’re told about what’s necessary for change.

Matt says the problem with concepts like “failure to launch” is they imply some fixed destination along a set path. And while he found great value in the rubric of AA, he now believes the all-or-nothing mindset implied by “regression” just isn't anchored in reality. In this discussion, we cover:

• Matt’s nontraditional path through treatment and what it reveals about recovery
• Why substance use often feels like it generates a safe, manageable, and consistent life
• The importance of reframing “failure to launch” as “failure to fail”
• Why substance use can maintain an illusion of freedom that prevents change
• The importance of helping young people in recovery identify their own beacons and core values

EPISODE RESOURCES:

• The PIVOTPoint Program (https://pivotpointwnc.org/)

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