This Man Thinks “AGI” Could Allow Humans To Live Forever, With Dr. Ben Goertzel

Full show notes: BenGreenfieldLife.com/AGIpodcast

In this episode, you'll hear how artificial intelligence is actually being pointed at aging right now, including an algorithm picking which Chinese herbs extend a fruit fly's life, plus whether the biological age test you just paid for means anything at all.

My guest is Dr. Ben Goertzel, who popularized the term artificial general intelligence, runs a decentralized AI network, and is chief scientist at Hanson Robotics. We get into the long-lived fruit flies his team works on at Genescient, the roughly five traditional Chinese herbs an AI selected from a database and combined in ways that more than double a middle-aged fly's life, and why the AI mixes them in combinations no Chinese medicine practitioner ever would. You'll also learn why he says today's biological age tests are "a little dodgy," why large language models keep handing you the existing literature instead of generating new science, and what the extracellular matrix has to do with whether your whole body is aging well. We close on the engineered enzymes he thinks will eventually re-sculpt the genome of every tissue in your body, my own follistatin gene therapy result, and the band he plays keyboards in with a humanoid robot lead singer.

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