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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for choosing us every single week

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Speaker 2: Demilio Show in May of twenty twenty one, and Charlie

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Speaker 2: the code on Purpose. No, you're right. I think that's

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Speaker 2: such a great point. It's rare that we have that

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Speaker 2: much certainty and control over anything in life, and if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great point. What else would you

452
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Speaker 2: say that you've discovered about your likes and dislikes, Like

453
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Speaker 2: what was something that you thought you liked before or

454
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Speaker 2: someone had told you to like before, and now you're like,

455
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Speaker 2: I actually change now, Like that's not how I feel

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, there's definitely a few. I'd say. One thing that

458
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Speaker 1: I started to specifically like my own way was music.

459
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: I you know, would listen to whatever's popular. And I

460
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: feel like now I really only listen to the songs

461
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: that I genuinely enjoy listening to where I relate to,

462
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Speaker 1: and even if it's the most random playlist ever, where

463
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Speaker 1: it's like rap, sad music, country music, like all in one,

464
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Speaker 1: I enjoy listening to that, and I don't have to

465
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Speaker 1: listen to whatever everyone else is listening to. And I

466
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Speaker 1: also can if I want to, If I want to

467
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Speaker 1: listen to whatever's the top one hundred, I'm gonna do that,

468
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: you know, even in front of other people, Like I

469
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: can play what I like and I'll take suggestions and

470
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Speaker 1: not just what's your favorite song, Well, whatever one's the

471
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Speaker 1: top one right now, Like you know, having that to

472
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Speaker 1: myself is also something really nice.

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Speaker 2: Have you discovered any new artists or anyone recently that

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Speaker 2: you're like someone that maybe we haven't heard of, or

475
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Speaker 2: someone that maybe is less heard of that you like.

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Speaker 1: Well, my favorite artist his name is Pimstones. He doesn't

477
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Speaker 1: make music anymore, which is really really sad, but he's

478
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Speaker 1: my favorite artist ever. He's made like some of the

479
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Speaker 1: most incredible songs I've ever heard, and they're just so

480
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Speaker 1: beautiful to listen to. And one of them has been

481
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Speaker 1: my favorite song for a while. Actually, someone at my

482
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Speaker 1: dance studio when I was like probably thirteen, had a

483
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Speaker 1: solo to it Wow. And ever since then, I've been obsessed.

484
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Speaker 1: And he only has like two songs out on Spotify,

485
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Speaker 1: but I will listen to the two of them just

486
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Speaker 1: on repeat forever and ever and ever because they're so good.

487
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Speaker 2: Wow Wow. Yeah, Yeah, I love it. I'll check it out.

488
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Speaker 2: Only two songs on Spotify, Yeah, Jamestones, Alright, I'm gonna

489
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Speaker 2: go check it out after this interview. No, I love that,

490
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: and I think it's really refreshing and it must feel

491
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: so good. I can see it your face. So you

492
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: just seem so like genuinely happy talking about the things

493
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: that spark joy, that bring you that sense of comfort

494
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: and ease and make life that much more. What if

495
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: someone right now is listening and they're like, Charlie, I'm

496
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Speaker 2: struggling with what you just said. Like, I find it

497
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Speaker 2: hard to be open and honest about the things I

498
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Speaker 2: like because people make fun of me or ridicule me,

499
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: or maybe people tell me that's not cool or whatever.

500
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Speaker 2: It is, Like, what has slowly given you the confidence

501
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Speaker 2: to get there? And what do you think people need

502
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Speaker 2: to hear to almost feel confident in themselves to say that?

503
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Speaker 1: I think it just starts with giving yourself permission to

504
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Speaker 1: be open with yourself, because it really, like, as much

505
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Speaker 1: as it sucks to hear like it is all in

506
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: your head, you have to work on yourself talk. And

507
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: I think positive self talk is something that is so

508
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: often overlooked because everyone's so overly critical of themselves. You

509
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: see your face, you know, in the reflection of your phone,

510
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: you're in pictures, background of photos. You're like, oh, I

511
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: hate this one, but this one posted it, and I

512
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. You know, you have to.

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Speaker 1: Once you start speaking in a more positive tone about

514
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Speaker 1: yourself and the people around you, the easier it is

515
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Speaker 1: to feel more positive, you know, instead of I hate

516
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Speaker 1: the way I look today, you know what, my hair

517
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: is doing something different and I kind of like it,

518
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Speaker 1: you know, starting with those little little things that sound

519
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Speaker 1: so so like it's so tiny, who even cares? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's in my head. It's not affecting anyone, but it's

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Speaker 1: affecting yourself. So I think just the more you can

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Speaker 1: be positive and open with yourself and not so overly

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Speaker 1: critical of yourself. If you like a movie and no

524
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Speaker 1: one else likes that movie, doesn't mean it's a bad

525
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: movie and you can't like it. You can still enjoy

526
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Speaker 1: watching it, and Okay, we just have different opinions. That's normal,

527
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: and they probably like stuff I don't like, but that

528
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from what they like. It's just, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: the way you talk to yourself is so important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so right, and it's so subtle, like those

531
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Speaker 2: thoughts as you just said, Like I love that switch

532
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: that you just made between I don't like how my

533
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: hair looks today, or oh my head's doing something different

534
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: today and that's interesting or it looks cool, whatever it

535
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: may be. There's an amazing book for those who are

536
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: more interested in what Charlie's talking about right now. It's

537
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: called Psycho cybernetics, and it's this whole idea of how

538
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: our thoughts completely define our reality and how as you

539
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: just said, studies showed that we have sixty to eighty

540
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: thousand thoughts per day, and eighty percent of them are

541
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Speaker 2: negative and repetitive. So we're often having the same thought,

542
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: which is like I don't like how I look or

543
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: I don't like how my hair looks, or I don't

544
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Speaker 2: like this about me or whatever it may be. And

545
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: you keep having that thought, oh yeah, and then it

546
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: just spirals and then that's all you feel about yourself,

547
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: and then it becomes your reality. So that book really

548
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: helped me. It's an old school classic in this space,

549
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: but it convinces you that you can change your thoughts

550
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: and it's not like you're lying to yourself, right, Like,

551
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Speaker 2: I want to address this for people who think that

552
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: positive This is not about positive thinking. This is not

553
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: like looking at yourself and going I'm amazing and I'm special.

554
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: Like that stuff doesn't work either. Yeah, but it's almost

555
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: just tweaking your thoughts slightly to being How do you

556
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Speaker 2: change from being critical to just being curious? And that

557
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: little switch can change everything exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I think It's so important because getting to the

559
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Speaker 1: point where you have a more positive self talk, it's

560
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Speaker 1: it's not linear. You know, you're gonna have dips and

561
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: bad days and good days and bad months and good months.

562
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Speaker 1: You just that's that's how it works. But I notice

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Speaker 1: when I start to see myself slip and realize I've

564
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Speaker 1: been super critical of myself and you know what, I've

565
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: had such a bad week. That's probably why I'm feeling

566
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Speaker 1: so insecure, and maybe I'm taking it out on other

567
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Speaker 1: people or I don't want to leave my house because

568
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Speaker 1: I've critiqued everything about the way I look and not

569
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Speaker 1: focus on one positive thing at all, you know it.

570
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Speaker 1: Really that's when I noticed, when I started to dip again,

571
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Speaker 1: how important it is to really focus on being kind

572
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Speaker 1: to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hope people really hear that, because I

574
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Speaker 2: think the reason why we're hard on others is because

575
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Speaker 2: we're so hard on ourselves. And the reason we're so

576
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Speaker 2: hard on ourselves is because we're so hard on others.

577
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Speaker 2: And it's almost like if we were just able to

578
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Speaker 2: be kinda to the stranger or our friend, our family member,

579
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Speaker 2: then I think we'd actually be able to be more

580
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Speaker 2: kind to ourselves, and.

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Speaker 1: Even like in friendships and relationships, I think it's important

582
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Speaker 1: if you're telling jokes back and forth to each other

583
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Speaker 1: and maybe they're like, you know how you joke with

584
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Speaker 1: your friends, Like sometimes it can be a little mean. Yeah,

585
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, I've done the why don't we try and

586
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: just be really really nice to each other for a

587
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Speaker 1: little bit, Let's really focus on bringing each other up.

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Speaker 1: And I've actually had that conversation before and I think

589
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Speaker 1: it's something that sounds almost corny, like let's be super

590
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: nice to each other, but it really is helpful to

591
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: have the people that you love. And maybe you say

592
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: it when you're a little bit down, so you know,

593
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: you're not asking for compliments, You're just asking for a

594
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Speaker 1: more positive environment around you. And I think that there's

595
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: something so special about that, and the people around you

596
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: that love you will definitely be open to it, you know.

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00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: And I think that there's also something in that the

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Speaker 1: people that you have around you every day you need

599
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Speaker 1: to try and build up with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's get I get that people find that hard.

601
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Speaker 2: Because I'm also in England, we banter a lot, and

602
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: so I'm banter a lot on my team with my wife, Like,

603
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Speaker 2: if people see me and my wife together, they're like,

604
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: you guys, hate you too, literally because we'd go so

605
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: hard and even my friends. I just came back from

606
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Speaker 2: London for my sister's wedding and I was there with

607
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Speaker 2: all my boys and I was so we're so intense

608
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Speaker 2: with each other, and that's how close we are, Like

609
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Speaker 2: the more intense we could be. But you're right that sometimes,

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Speaker 2: and it's really interesting because when you get into a

611
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Speaker 2: one on one with a friend, they'll say how much

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Speaker 2: they need the opposite. Like when you're with a group

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Speaker 2: of people and you're all bantering, it's great, but then

614
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Speaker 2: when you're one on one with someone, you hear how

615
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Speaker 2: someone's like, you know, I need a bit of encouragement, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I need to know that you think I'm doing good

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Speaker 2: at this or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: So and also like, don't be afraid to be the

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Speaker 1: person that is going to text all the people around

620
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Speaker 1: you every time you see them do something, I'm so

621
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Speaker 1: proud of you, like you looked amazing at this or

622
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: this was so cool that you did this. Like be

623
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Speaker 1: that person, be the annoying person. You know, I wish

624
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: I did it more, and I should, and that's something

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Speaker 1: that I'll take into the of the day. But this

626
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Speaker 1: morning even I had a conversation with my mom and

627
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Speaker 1: she's got back into modeling. She's in Louisiana right now,

628
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Speaker 1: so I haven't seen her in a couple of days,

629
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Speaker 1: and she was sending me photos and I didn't answer

630
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Speaker 1: my phone for a little bit, just because I've been

631
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Speaker 1: jet lagged and crazy, and I was like, geez, like,

632
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Speaker 1: if I sent her something, I would want to hear

633
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Speaker 1: back how proud she is of me. So let me

634
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Speaker 1: just go over the top, because sometimes you need to

635
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Speaker 1: be that person, especially if that's the energy that you're

636
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Speaker 1: trying to get back. You can't get that without giving

637
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Speaker 1: it too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, And how's that been, because obviously that's

639
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Speaker 2: a big part of it, right, especially with the new

640
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: new docu series as well, like the new season, like

641
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: this idea of your whole family is now in the spotlight. Yeah,

642
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: And it's almost like people just lump everyone together, especially

643
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Speaker 2: when it's a big family and everyone's got exciting things happening.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I've obviously interviewed your whole family before,

645
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: so I've sat with them and it's wonderful and at

646
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: the same time, it's hard to find your own space

647
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Speaker 2: and call of your own identity, right, Like that's challenging.

648
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the family dynamic is something that

649
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: is really really confusing, especially for me. I'm the youngest,

650
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: So you spend all your time trying to impress your

651
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: older sister. You spend all your time trying to prove

652
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: something to your parents, even when they're already proud of you.

653
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: You know, it's really confusing. You don't know where you

654
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: fit in. I'm like, I live with my sister. I

655
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: don't live with my parents, but you know, I still

656
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: want the same support that I got when I lived

657
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: with them. But I can't just go up to their

658
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: room anytime I'm having a bad day. They don't know

659
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: what's going on with me all the time when we're

660
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: working together and on a shoot. You know, I hate

661
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: to say this, but sometimes they want more stuff of

662
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: me or whatever it is, or we want this for

663
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: the family, and then they'll you know, expect extra from me,

664
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, where do I fit in because

665
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm the youngest, But sometimes they want the most and

666
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: will you know, it gets the point where it's like,

667
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: well they they're not there for me, and it's like, well,

668
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: you know what, everyone's doing their own stuff. Like, everyone

669
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: has their own stuff going on. Dixie has music, my

670
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: mom's modeling, my dad's doing business stuff, Like there's so

671
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: much going on for all of us at the same time.

672
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: It can get hard to celebrate every single achievement when

673
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: there's just four of us all doing different things, all

674
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: at the same time, running from place to place, traveling.

675
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: You know, we're still figuring that out now. I think

676
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: while filming season three, our entire family was going through

677
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: a lot, like mentally and with work. So it's hard

678
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: to watch back those episodes because we were just all

679
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: in such a different place and so confused at where

680
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: we all stand and taking it out on each other,

681
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: which I think is probably the biggest regret I have

682
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: through all of this with my family, is like we

683
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: need to have each other's backs through everything, because you know,

684
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: through it all, you work with people, you make friends, whatever,

685
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: you have to have family or people that you've kind

686
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: of adopted as family that are there to support you

687
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: when there's no cameras or when there's no likes or

688
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: followers anything like. You need that and the hardest time

689
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: for all of us was when we didn't have each

690
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: other to lean on, and that is really really shown

691
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: in season three, and like even when I see clips,

692
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to see it at all,

693
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: Like that was such a hard time for all of us,

694
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: and it's so embarrassing at times to see that, like

695
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: people posting it, reposting it, edits of it, edits of

696
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: times where I was like really really really struggling and

697
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: hearing people She's so dramatic, but you hear a tenth

698
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: of what was acting actually going on, you know, So

699
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot or things are you know, maybe

700
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: I was upset about one thing, but in the show

701
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: it looks like I'm upset about something else. It's like

702
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff that's just I don't even

703
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: want to pay attention to it.

704
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: It must be so challenging, like I've always I've always

705
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: thought about it, like having a show where every one

706
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: of your feelings and emotions is being documented and then

707
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: broadcast sounds like the most challenging thing ever.

708
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

709
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like even just that as a premise, and

710
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: I know it's been around forever, and you know, Famili

711
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: has been followed forever, and there's this format has been

712
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: around forever. But I'm like it doesn't get easier because

713
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: of that, because as humans, we love to watch drama.

714
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: We love to watch the gossip. We want to see

715
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: the scoop. The show has like twists and changes, and

716
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: you know, characters that are upset at each other, and

717
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: you have all of this going on, but then behind

718
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: all of that there's a real human with emotions, yeah,

719
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: trying to figure it all out. Have you been able

720
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: to separate like yourself and then the character on the

721
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: show too, Like do you feel or do you feel

722
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: that's just so interrelated that you're like in.

723
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: Ways, yes for sure, but like people don't realize when

724
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: you're filming. Sometimes you forget you have a mic on

725
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: and you say something and you're like, I really wasn't

726
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: that deep, Like, yeah, it's not that important. Sometimes you're

727
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: really really upset or you're maybe mentally struggling a little bit,

728
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: and you don't have a reason, because sometimes you don't

729
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: need a reason. Sometimes you just feel really bad and

730
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: that happens, so you go through these well why are

731
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: you well, what was happening? You know? Was it this

732
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: person's fault and it's like, well, I don't know. I

733
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: was just really feeling bad and I didn't have a

734
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: handle on it and I had to film, so you know,

735
00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: it's like I don't get a choice of how I

736
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: how I go into filming. You know, I can try

737
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: and go in with a positive mindset, but after a

738
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: couple hours, you know, like I'm tired, and you see

739
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: how maybe I was really feeling that day. Maybe it's

740
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: nothing that was at all in the show, like people

741
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 1: watching have no idea, but it is so many real

742
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: emotions that it's really really hard to separate the two.

743
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: But hopefully, you know, if another season happens, I'll be

744
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: able to do that.

745
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: And why did you feel there in season three that

746
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: it got harder with family than easier, Like you'd hope

747
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: that season three, like maybe it easier, But why do

748
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: you think it got hard? Is it just that everyone's

749
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: more busy now or.

750
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we were just all going through so

751
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: much individually and constantly taking it out on each other.

752
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: And you know that's building blocks to working with your family.

753
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: No family that works together is perfect all the time.

754
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: And if you say you are, you are so wrong,

755
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: especially when you know, we talk about it all the time,

756
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: like family is everything, but when you're in those moment

757
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm pissed at this person in my

758
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: family because of maybe it's something stupid, But to me,

759
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: it's like it feels like a lot. It feels like

760
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: the entire world on my shoulders for maybe something that

761
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: isn't that big of a deal, but it feels like

762
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: that to me. You know, it's just we were all

763
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: going through so much at the same time that there

764
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: was no way that these cameras weren't going.

765
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: To catch it. It sounds like even even though obviously

766
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: you said that, you know, when you're a kid, you

767
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: still want your family to take care of you. And

768
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: obviously now you're in a position where obviously you take

769
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: care of yourself. You live with your sister. But what

770
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: would you say, has been the biggest skills you've learned

771
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: in how to take care of yourself when you don't

772
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: have your family to rely on.

773
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I feel like that's something that

774
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: is so confusing to me. Still. I feel so independent

775
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm traveling without any of my friends

776
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: or family. I'm on these big work calls, like I

777
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: have no training for this. I didn't even finish high school. Like,

778
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this. I don't know

779
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: if I'm making the right decision. I don't know if

780
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: this is, you know, good or bad. I still call

781
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: my dad all the time and I'm like, Okay, but seriously,

782
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: what do you think about this? Because I like, this

783
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: sounds not that cool to me, but apparently it's really

784
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: like I have no idea how this works. And you know,

785
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: the more I do it, the more I get comfortable

786
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: and learn. But I missed so much of the normal

787
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: growing up, going to college and then coming back for Thanksgiving,

788
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: Christmas or whatever it is that I kind of had

789
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: to like race to figure it out because it was

790
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: one day you're a kid and you're in high school

791
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: and you have no responsibilities, and now you have people

792
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: that are working for you and you're responsible for them,

793
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: and you're responsible for everything that you do and you're

794
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: not allowed to mess up. But I'm sixteen. I don't

795
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: know how to not mess up. I don't know anything,

796
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: Like how am I supposed to learn that without having

797
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: these real life experiences. So I think the more as

798
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: time goes on and the more I'm put in these

799
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: situations where I have to be independent and a grown up.

800
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, the easier it gets, but it's still something

801
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: that I really have to figure out in each individual situation.

802
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thirty six and I still don't know how

803
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: not to mess up. It's just because I think what

804
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: we don't realize is you've got yourself and your identity,

805
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: like you as an individual, which is always changing. So

806
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: whether you're thirty six or whether you're nineteen, you're still

807
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: dealing with that. On top of that, you've now got

808
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: the industry is always changing, so like the platforms are changing,

809
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: and the business is changing, and there's social whatever, all

810
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: of that's always changing. So you've never done it before,

811
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: and most people have never done it before. Yeah, So

812
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: no matter how smart someone was five months ago, everything's

813
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: changed and so everything's being updated. And then on top

814
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: of all of that, you've got everyone around you who's

815
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: constantly changing and growing and evolving, and so it's so

816
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: hard to ever feel you ever have a handle on

817
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: all areas of your life. Yeah, and so definitely as

818
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: a sixteen year old now a nineteen year old, Like,

819
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: it's it's so much to learn quickly, and I think

820
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: you had your you've recently had your prom, or you

821
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: did your prom here right like you?

822
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had, I had two. We did one on

823
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, and then I went to my high

824
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: school prom at my hometown. Okay, cool, Yeah, which is

825
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: really fun and like the bit of senior year that

826
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: I got to have, which was really nice because I

827
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: didn't get that at all, and a lot of kids

828
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: didn't during COVID and everything. So I'm definitely not the

829
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: only person feeling like there's a lot of freshman sophomore

830
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: year of college, like people didn't get that. People didn't

831
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: get that very very integral part of growing up, or

832
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: whether it's your first job, like this was my first job.

833
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: I had never had any true responsibility before, and I

834
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: don't know how, and there's no rulebook to say, well,

835
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: this is how you be an adult. So it's kind

836
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: of just figuring it out and messing up along the way.

837
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: But when you mess up and you have so many

838
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: people telling you how you messed up and how that's

839
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: horrible and you're doing all of these things wrong, you're like, yeah,

840
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: I know, but this is all I know how to do.

841
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: You kind of just every day learn a little bit

842
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: and just continue to do your best because that's all

843
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: you can do.

844
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And and do you know what, it's interesting

845
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: because we're hearing that from you, and I think everyone's

846
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: listening right now is going that's me too, Like, you know,

847
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: I think it doesn't matter how old you are, or

848
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: how wise you are, or how smart, or whether you

849
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: have your own business or you don't, or we're just

850
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: all feeling that way because everyone is just trying to

851
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: do their best, and sometimes my best is not good

852
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: enough for everyone else, but that's all they could give.

853
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: And I feel that for anyone and everyone today, And

854
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: so I think what you're saying resonates or feels very relatable,

855
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: at least even to me. And I'm sure everyoneho's listening

856
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: is thinking that as well. Like I'm just trying, yeah,

857
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: And that's like.

858
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: The normal human experience. And I definitely get on myself

859
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: about it, but everyone's just doing their best. Like my

860
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: parents are still figuring out who they are, you know,

861
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: it's ever changing. Like my grandmother before she passed, started

862
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: to get a handle on all of the social media

863
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: stuff and like how to watch me? She would watch

864
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: YouTube videos or like see see things online articles and

865
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: she would be like, I heard you did this, and

866
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's not true. That's just like an article,

867
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, and she's like, no, no, but I saw it

868
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: in the press and I was like, yeah, I know,

869
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not true. So we had to

870
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: get a handle on that. But she was changing, and

871
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: she was evolve with the times, and she didn't know

872
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: how it worked, and she was you know, she was

873
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: she was a lot older and still figuring out who

874
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: she is and well, how do I do this? And

875
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: and I want to watch you, but I have to

876
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: discover this whole new thing. Like everyone is learning something,

877
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: and she was just doing her best to watch her

878
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: grandchildren on social media, like it's something that is so

879
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: cute and something that seems so simple to me, like

880
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: we'll just download TikTok and watch my videos, you know,

881
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: But to her it was like this whole new thing

882
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: that she has to learn. And I think once you

883
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: realize that, literally everyone is just trying to do their

884
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: best to get to the next day, Like you can

885
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: be a lot easier on yourself, but also a lot

886
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: easier on everyone around you.

887
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: And also even just what you said about your grandmother,

888
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: like learning about how she's reading something that sounds so

889
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: true and you're like, no, it didn't happen that way.

890
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I go through similar things with

891
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: me and my family. So my parents will read an

892
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: article about me or whatever, and they'll get really upset

893
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 2: for me, or they'll get offended for me because there's

894
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: something in it that they don't like or whatever it is,

895
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: or there's something said about the family, which you must

896
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: have to do with way more than I do, because

897
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: your family's in the spotlight too. But then they're like, oh, well,

898
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: why did they say that about the family and this

899
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: and that? And I'm like, I didn't say anything, like

900
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like I didn't even talk about that.

901
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: I didn't mention anything. It's just someone coming up with something. Yeah,

902
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: and I can't imagine for you, Like.

903
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: It's like the clickbait articles where I'm like, I'm telling

904
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: you that this isn't real. Or she'd like see someone

905
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: online she's like, I don't like them. Why they said

906
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: something about you three years ago? Well, they're my friends

907
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: now She's like, I don't know, I don't like them.

908
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, you're gonna think whatever you think, like,

909
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: that's fine. She was so cute and so so supportive.

910
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: Like she spent all day on her iPad just watching

911
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: YouTube compilations of my tiktoks, And every time I see her,

912
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: she'd be like, you need to stop cursing on the internet.

913
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: Was like, I know, I know, that's so sweet. That's

914
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: so funny. Yeah, I mean, and you're nice of you

915
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: not to block out from those videos.

916
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Even my other grandma, she like still swipes

917
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: up on all my stories. She's like, you look great,

918
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: or she'd reply to fan pages like a lot of

919
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: people's grandparents. I hear this all the time from all

920
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: the social media kids. It's like my grandma responds to

921
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: my fan pages thinking they're me. And I'm like, it's

922
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: so like it's so so ea and I love it.

923
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: And I mean my grandma, that's my grandma on my

924
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: dad's side, Like she like she still texts me all

925
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: the time like do you look so good in this?

926
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: Or this is so cool? Or anytime I do anything

927
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: where it's like something that she would like, I'll like

928
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: send her a photo and you know she's just proud.

929
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: You know. That's also a good person to talk to

930
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: that's just like always going to be proud of me.

931
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: Just really nice to have.

932
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely to allow that in. Do you find that

933
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: you've found, like, I know you're close with Markel, who

934
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: I love to is such a I love Markel's energy.

935
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 2: I've only met him a couple of times, but he's

936
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 2: so awesome. Have you found that you've got a good

937
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: group of friends around you in the industry, Because what

938
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: I've found is that so I have a bunch of

939
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: great friends back in London who are like my best friends,

940
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: like my best man at my wedding, and like my

941
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: closest friends that I grew up with, and I speak

942
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: to them like I speak to my best friend like

943
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: three times a week still because it's so important to

944
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: me and it and I need it. And at the

945
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: same time, I also need friends who are in the

946
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: industry because there are certain things that we can all

947
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: understand about the industry, kind of like the idea of yeah,

948
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: don't trust the press on that and whatever, because they

949
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: already know that because they go through the same stuff.

950
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: Do you find I know, it sounds like you have

951
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: a great group of friends back at home. Do you

952
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: find that you've also found the good friends in the

953
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: industry that you can kind of compare notes with a

954
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: bit too and be like, oh, I just went through

955
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: that and this is how I'm feeling.

956
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean Markel's like he's family to me.

957
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has shown.

958
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: So much to me just as a person, whether it's

959
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: talking to me one on one or defending me online,

960
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: or you know, defending me to the people around him.

961
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: Like he is someone that every person that meets him

962
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: has so much amazing things to say about him, and

963
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm so thankful that I have him in my life,

964
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: whether it's like we're doing nothing, or we're out with

965
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of people and we want to have a

966
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: dance party in the middle of the dance floor and

967
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: it's just us too, like we'll do it, or in

968
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: the middle of a restaurant, whatever it is, Like, I

969
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: love that. But I've definitely found a lot of people

970
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: that are in the industry, and a lot of the

971
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: friendships that I have I tend to keep quiet about.

972
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: And a lot of the friendships that I have, I've

973
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: met them in very, very weird ways, because how am

974
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: I supposed to meet people? You know, I don't go

975
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: out super often I don't. I'm not usually around people

976
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: my own age. Like a lot of my friends that

977
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 1: I met, they were actually dancers at the Kid's Choice Awards,

978
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: and we just clicked and I started to hang out

979
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: with them, and I really like them, and they're really

980
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: cool people, and they're in an industry that I'm so

981
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: fascinated by, and yeah, they do so much similar things

982
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: to me, but it's also different, and I think that

983
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: that's really special. And after meeting them, it was really

984
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: refreshing to be around people my own age and also

985
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: just have people that are hardworking and determined and not

986
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: competitive with me at all and just happy to see

987
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: me happy. And I can have fun with whether we're

988
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: filming or not. You know. But even like my boyfriend,

989
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: he's in the industry, and you know, we tend to

990
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: handle things a little bit differently. But sometimes I have

991
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: to be like, it's not worth it. You know. We

992
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: don't have to respond, we don't have to anything, like

993
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: it's not worth it. I know, you you know me,

994
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: whether people are saying things about me or people are

995
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: saying things about a relationship. You know, having each other

996
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: to kind of navigate that on our own is really

997
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: nice because it's also what two nineteen year olds in

998
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: a relationship have their lives together. You know, there's ups

999
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: and downs, like whether I'm working all the time or

1000
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: he's working all the time, or I'm traveling or whatever.

1001
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: It is, like, there's always so much going on that

1002
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: can so easily put a strain on a relationship. And

1003
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: also just coming into adulthood with two teenagers that have

1004
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: no idea what they're doing and just trying their best, like,

1005
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's been really confusing to navigate, but also

1006
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: really refreshing to have someone else there that's like just

1007
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out day by day.

1008
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: It's almost yeah, it's almost easier in one sense because

1009
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: you have someone to bounce it off of. Yeah, as

1010
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: opposed to.

1011
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: You're like, am I crazy? Are you crazy? Is this? Like?

1012
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Is this okay? You know, so it's it's really nice.

1013
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: Do you think the hardest part about success and fame

1014
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: is having a relationship in the public eye. Would you

1015
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: say that that's the hardest part in terms of when

1016
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: it comes to your relationships or that's.

1017
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: Not Sometimes I feel like, you know, when two people

1018
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: that are in a relationship have like an off week

1019
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: or whatever, there can be the whole. This person didn't

1020
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: like their photo, or they haven't posted together, they're broken up,

1021
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: or this person's starting a rumor. Like even if you

1022
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: too are struggling, that's for you to go through and

1023
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: handle it however's appropriate whether you guys part ways or

1024
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: continue to work through things together. Like no relationship is perfect. Ever,

1025
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: you have moments where so much is going on, Like

1026
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: during Dancing with the Stars, I was dancing seven days

1027
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: a week. I was never home. He was like, I

1028
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: felt like I didn't have a girlfriend, and that was

1029
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: really hard. It was hard on my parents, you know,

1030
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: Like it's a lot, and especially for two young teenagers

1031
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: to go through, Like we don't know how to do this.

1032
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: No one knows how to do this. So we're just

1033
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: doing our best and there's ups and downs, but we

1034
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: work through it. And that's just being a person, you know.

1035
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, And and just the idea of

1036
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: it is interesting when you've got two people who have

1037
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: crazy lives and have different journeys and have different you know,

1038
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 2: commitments and family commitments and there's just so much going on. Yeah,

1039
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: to keep up with it, Well, what have you found

1040
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: what has helped you both kind of keep up with

1041
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: each other's schedules in each other's lives because that's not

1042
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: going to change, at least not right now. And so

1043
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: what has helped, what has worked?

1044
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we've obviously talked about this so much,

1045
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: just as a whole was I was just gone for

1046
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: almost two weeks and we were on different time zones,

1047
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: just trying to text and update each other. But it's

1048
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: figuring out what each other needs. You know, if he

1049
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: wants me to keep him updated, then I'll keep him

1050
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: updated because that's what he needs. If if I need

1051
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: him to tell me what's going on in his week

1052
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 1: so I don't feel left out, like that's totally cool,

1053
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: that's what I need. It's just having that conversation and

1054
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: realizing that people's needs change and adapting with that and

1055
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: not feeling like, well, I don't want to make him upset,

1056
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: like he's working a lot and I know he's super busy,

1057
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: like I need a shoulder to lean on. It's also

1058
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: having the conversation like sometimes I'll literally say I'm really

1059
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: really sensitive right now, like I just need some extra support,

1060
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: and then he knows to well, she needs this right now, Okay,

1061
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: Like that's totally cool. That's two people in a relationship

1062
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: doing whatever they can to make the other person happy,

1063
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: just normal human things and definitely not worrying about what

1064
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: anyone online has to say. It's so not worth it.

1065
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: It really isn't because ninety nine percent of these people

1066
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: are looking for you to respond. Like even today, I

1067
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: woke up to some crazy person talking about me and

1068
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: like the most wildly disrespectful way is like I've really

1069
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: seen a long time. And the thing is, like me

1070
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: and this person were at an event together and this

1071
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: person introduced themselves. I introduced myself, so we tried to

1072
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: be nice. This kid was not nice to me and

1073
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: then went and talked very poorly on me. And Lynnon's like, well,

1074
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: let me call this kid, And I'm like, it's not

1075
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: that big of a deal, Like, it's not that's what

1076
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: he's looking for. Is it taking everything in me not

1077
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: to respond or not to text him. Yeah, but I

1078
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: know if I text him, he's gonna post it, and

1079
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: that's going to be a thing, and he's going to

1080
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: get exactly what he wants me to respond and give

1081
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: in to whatever's story he wants to portray to the

1082
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: people that watch him. It's not it's not my problem,

1083
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: Like I know who I am and that's good enough

1084
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: for me, Like it doesn't matter.

1085
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so hard to get to that point,

1086
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: but it's so libering when you do, Like it's so

1087
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: freeing when you realize that where you're like actually not

1088
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: responding is not getting caught up in someone else's yeah yeah.

1089
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: And like then it just gives people an opportunity to well,

1090
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: if I say this about her, then she's gonna respond.

1091
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't have time to respond to

1092
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: every little thing that people have to say about me,

1093
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: And it takes so much. It's so draining to have

1094
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: to see that. And the more you talk about it,

1095
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: the more your fans talk about it, and people in

1096
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: the press talk about it, and it's like for what reason?

1097
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Because I was angry at this kid who I met once,

1098
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: Like who cares?

1099
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's hard when the person you're in a

1100
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: relationship with wants to defend you too, And.

1101
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: And he's so sweet. He is so quick to defend

1102
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: me in every way possible, and I just have to

1103
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: be like, it's cool.

1104
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: It's good.

1105
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I tell him that all the time

1106
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: because he gets so upset whenever people have something negative

1107
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: to say about me or his family. And I mean

1108
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: I think I definitely told him, like many many times,

1109
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: it's cool, It's totally fine. They're gonna say it no

1110
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: matter what. And even if you respond and are like,

1111
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: well this isn't true because this is this they're not

1112
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: They're they already read it and they think what they

1113
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: think about you. They're not going to change their minds,

1114
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: you know.

1115
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're arguing.

1116
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: With people that don't care what you have to say.

1117
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's already lost. Like, yeah, it's it's a lose

1118
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: lose situation. Yeah, so moving on is the best thing

1119
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: you can do. Yeah. No, And it's wonderful to be

1120
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: with someone and have that with someone who you know

1121
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: cares about you that deeply. And my wife's like that,

1122
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Like my wife gets very defensive about me and like

1123
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: can get really activated and she gets really upset for

1124
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: me and whatever maybe, and I I really always appreciate

1125
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: that because I can see that she knows who I am.

1126
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what it goes back to her.

1127
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: I always said the same thing to him, like I'm

1128
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: just glad I have someone who knows who I am.

1129
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: Especially like when someone cares about you like that, to

1130
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: see you upset because of something and not being able

1131
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: to fix the problem because they just want to see

1132
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: you happy. Like I understand how upset that might make you,

1133
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, And I feel bad because sometimes I feel

1134
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: like I drag him into the drama just because of

1135
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: the relationship. But I think knowing that, you know, we

1136
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: have each other and I can tell him like this

1137
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: was this actually really hurt my feelings today, and it

1138
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: was it was a lot. And I just need some

1139
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: comfort and I need you to be by my side,

1140
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: and that's good enough for me, you know.

1141
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: Definitely. Definitely, Charlie, what are you excited about right now?

1142
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: Like what's kind of like, you know, you've done so

1143
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: many amazing things, and I feel like this journey that

1144
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: you're saying with your identity of like getting to know

1145
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: yourself better. Yeah, You've done so many things, and I'm

1146
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: guessing some of them you're like, oh, yeah, that was

1147
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: Charlie Demilio and Charlie. It's like, what is Charlie like

1148
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: really excited about or curious about or passionate about, or

1149
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: like what's coming up where you're like, I really want

1150
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: to try that out or learn that or whatever whatever

1151
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: it may be, like open for.

1152
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I think the first thing that I'm most excited

1153
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: about is my dogs. I have a puppy. I know,

1154
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: I sound so lame.

1155
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: I have a puppy. I'm not loving it. I love it.

1156
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: It's cute. It's just like, yeah, you have to open

1157
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: up a dogschuts.

1158
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: I know, I'm like in love with her. I am

1159
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: a like older dog who's nine. She's literally me as

1160
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: a dog, and I'm I'm obsessed with her. She's the

1161
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: most adorable dog ever. She's literal human. But then I

1162
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: have this puppy that Lena and I adopted from Nashville,

1163
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: and she's like she was abandoned and she was like

1164
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: it was a horrible story and it really like pulled

1165
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: at my heart strings and I was like, okay, I

1166
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: need to take you home now, like I will take

1167
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: care of you. I love you. And like watching her

1168
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: grow up and being responsible for her, I think has

1169
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: been very refreshing to me because my older dog, she's

1170
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, she's very self sufficient. She's also very lazy.

1171
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: So I'll be up in the morning and she'll wake

1172
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: up two hours later ready to be fed like she

1173
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: is not. She has her own schedule and I love

1174
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: that about her because that's how I raise her. She's

1175
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: a very like laid back dog. I can have all

1176
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: the lights on and she's sleeping, like I love that.

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: But this puppy, you know, you have to train her.

1178
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: You have to It's very specific, and these formative puppy

1179
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: years are so important to who this dog becomes. There's

1180
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: no bad dogs, there's only bad dog owners. So I

1181
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: just like am loving this journey of truly because you know,

1182
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: I got my dog nine years ago. I was ten.

1183
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't actually raising her, and now I'm getting the

1184
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: chance to raise a dog, and it's really really exciting

1185
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: and special, and seeing the two of them together is

1186
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: like my favorite thing ever. I think something else that

1187
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm excited for is I have a dance room in

1188
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: my garage, So I love just going down there any

1189
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: time of the day, whether it's four in the morning

1190
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: or one pm, and just like letting go and being

1191
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: open with myself and using movement as therapy and also

1192
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of a workout in, you know,

1193
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: like being productive. I love that, and probably experimenting more

1194
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: with my style. That's something that I've just recently started

1195
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: to get into. I think Landon and my sister had

1196
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: a lot to do with that, because I love the

1197
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: way that they put together outfits. I think that they

1198
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: both have really good styles and it comes very natural

1199
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: to them, and to me it's a lot harder because

1200
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: I always go for what I know instead of stepping

1201
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: out of the box. But I'm trying. So that's something

1202
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: exciting and it's fun to experiment, you know.

1203
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love how personal old as well. Those great

1204
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: there are great choices. Yeah. I love how none of

1205
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: them were career related and like none of them will

1206
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: work related. And that's awesome because I can tell that

1207
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: you've really start carving those two things as separate.

1208
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, work wise, you know, using my voice more online,

1209
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, even doing a podcast is

1210
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: something very outside of my comfort zone. A lot of

1211
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: my career has been not talking, so it's been very

1212
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: hard for me to get into using my voice and

1213
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: figuring out what do I want to say, Especially when

1214
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: you don't know yourself, how do you answer questions I

1215
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: don't You can't say I don't know for everything. So

1216
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: that's something that's been special and I've been trying to

1217
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: make more content for my fans and trying to use

1218
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: my voice more and like even little things finishing and

1219
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 1: get ready with me, which I film fifty of them

1220
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: and I post one of them, like trying to get

1221
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: more into it and go back to the reason why

1222
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: I started social media because I like it and I'm

1223
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: finally at a point where I like it again, which

1224
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: is really refreshing and nice. It doesn't feel like work.

1225
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 2: I love that. And what's been what is that when

1226
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: you say you want to use your voice and even

1227
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: doing the podcast today, like you coming on today and

1228
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: you know, being open and trusting me and trusting this

1229
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: space and just being vulnerable with the idea of like

1230
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: you said, I don't know, I'm trying to figure out

1231
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: who I am, Yeah, and being okay with that, which

1232
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: I think, by the way, for a nineteen year old

1233
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: is completely normal and wonderful and good, and like, I

1234
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: think that's amazing that you want to spend this time

1235
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: in your life figuring out who you are. I think

1236
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: it's the best investment you could ever make. I'm so

1237
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: happy that you're doing it, and I'm hoping that you

1238
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: take your whole audience and community on a journey to

1239
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: do it for themselves because you're going to save so

1240
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: many people from so many stressful twenty to thirty year

1241
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: old journeys. Right like literally, like you can either do

1242
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: it now or you can do it when you're thirty,

1243
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: And if you do it now, it's that you can

1244
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: help so many people. What is that kind of like

1245
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: when you say using your voice, is that the type

1246
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: of journey you want people to go on with you?

1247
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: Or are you? Are you still figuring out what that

1248
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: journey it is that you want people to go on

1249
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: with you.

1250
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, as of right now, it's literally just talking talking online,

1251
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: just actually using my voice. You know, for so long

1252
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: it was a song and no words, Like it sounds

1253
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: so little bit just talking. I feel like that's something

1254
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: that is which is so weird, but it's so outside

1255
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and I feel so like weird

1256
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: doing it, but has honestly been really refreshing for me

1257
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm growing up and a part of

1258
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: growing up is being confident with what you have to

1259
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: say and using your words and just talking with you know,

1260
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of purpose. And I'm growing up, but

1261
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: also so are all of the people that are watching me,

1262
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: and I think bringing them on that journey of this

1263
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: is literally just what I'm doing. I'm not talking about

1264
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: anything that's really of any importance. Sometimes sometimes I'm just talking.

1265
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: But that's what I need to do to move to

1266
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: this next step of my life, to hopefully talk about

1267
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: something important and talk about what matters to me. I

1268
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: think that that's this is a very integral step of

1269
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: growing up.

1270
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: I think that's really smart. I genuinely do. I think

1271
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: that takes a lot of courage to even say that.

1272
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's like insignificant

1273
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: at all. I think it makes a lot of sense

1274
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: to me that in order for you to stand for something,

1275
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: you need to get to a point where you just

1276
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: feel comfortable being open and sharing.

1277
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so much of the beginning few years of

1278
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: this journey, every time I talked, someone had something to say,

1279
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: and you know, you get canceled every five seconds. Like

1280
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: that was what was happening to me for so long

1281
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: any time I opened my mouth. So I just stop talking.

1282
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: I stopped saying anything that was important to me. I

1283
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Speaker 1: stopped doing anything that was outside of the box that

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Speaker 1: I was put in where I couldn't go wrong if

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Speaker 1: I just didn't do anything, you know. Yeah, and I

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: have opinions, I have thoughts. I have things I like,

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Speaker 1: I have things I don't like. Why can't I just

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Speaker 1: say it? Like? Who is stopping me? The people that

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01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: actually care what I have to say, They're going to

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Speaker 1: support me even if they disagree. You know, whether it's

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Speaker 1: I really like this outfit and they don't like, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: They respect my opinion. I respect theirs, That's awesome. The

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Speaker 1: people that don't like me, they're not gonna like me

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Speaker 1: no matter what. They didn't like me when I wasn't

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01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: saying anything. They're not gonna like me now. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not making my videos for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. When you say you still want to get

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01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: to know who you are and your identity, what are

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Speaker 2: the pots that you're like, I'm still just trying to

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01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: figure this out at this point. I'm like really curious

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01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 2: about I'm trying to learn about this about myself. But

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't like, what are those parts of yourself?

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01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think a lot of it has to do

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: with the way that I present myself. Whether it's how

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01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: do I like my makeup done? How do I like

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: to dress? How do I like to look? How do

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: I like to show myself to other people? Not just

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01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: what is going on at the moment. How do I

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: like to smell?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: I like Bourn Dreamer? I know I like that, And

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: let's discover for future with Bourne Dreamer. What else do

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01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: I like? You know? Whatever?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 1: I like go a little bit deeper and you know,

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Speaker 1: something so simple. I've been doing more colors with my nails,

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01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: which is so random and so small. It's your nails.

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01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: You know, people get their nails in all the time.

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: But I did bright green and I thought about that

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Speaker 1: for three weeks before I did it, and like why

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I like the color. I wanted it

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: on my nails. It made me happy every time I

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: saw them. I was like, I did that. That was

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: something different I normally do nude. Let's do something fun

1325
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: like that little thing was so much fun for me

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01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: and it brought me so much happiness. And I would

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Speaker 1: match this color to this and it's just so fun.

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Speaker 1: Why am I robbing myself a fun because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put myself out there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. I honestly like you're literally doing

1331
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,480
Speaker 2: all the practical steps that it takes to build your values. Thereah,

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Speaker 2: and that's what it is. All of these little habits.

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: For anyone who's listening, all these little habits and these

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: little changes that you're making, they turn into values that

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Speaker 2: you appreciate about yourself. So a value could be and

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01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm not putting a value on you, I'm just throwing

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: it out there is for a reflection. But a value

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01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: could be I like freedom, or I like self expression,

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: or I like random can be a value or whatever

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: it may be and like and then those values become

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: things you can use in the future for how you

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: make decisions. Yeah, now when you make so my values

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Speaker 2: has always been to take risks. I feel like I

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Speaker 2: took risks ever since I was fourteen, eighteen, twenty one,

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01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 2: and I've noticed that pattern in my life. And so

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01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: now when I'm taking a risk, I'm not that scared

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: anymore because I've always taken risks my whole life. And

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Speaker 2: I love how when I first took a risk, I

1349
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 2: didn't even know what a risk was like. When I

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: was fourteen years old or eighteen, I just did it.

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01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: And now when I look back, I'm like, oh no,

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01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 2: that's a skill I have now. And so it's almost

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: like when you're doing all these things, you're just collecting

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01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: lots of different skills and then one day they'll evolve

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01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: into values which will form an identity, and then you'll

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 2: be able to be like, these are the three things

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: that I value and that really matter to me. And

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: you know, I love that. I love how simple you've

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01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: made it for yourself, and I love how you've broken

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: it down because I think a lot of us try

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: to like leap frogs, like this is who I am now,

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01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: and we almost want the performance part before the work part.

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: And it's like, I feel like you're doing the work part. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And it's great to work, great to see. Thank you, Johnie.

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Speaker 2: What if I not asked you about that? You're like,

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Speaker 2: I really want to share this. So this has been

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Speaker 2: on my heart, on my mind, or like something you

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 2: want to talk about it. You're like, this is what

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: I want to use my voice for. You haven't asked

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Speaker 2: me about it, or it just didn't come up.

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Speaker 1: Something for me that I think is very interesting, which

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Speaker 1: is very random and has nothing to do with my career,

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Speaker 1: my personal life or anything. I love the San Diego

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01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: Safari Park, which is so random, but I've recently found

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Speaker 1: I watched this whole video on it, this like very

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: specific thing that you have to go through a lot

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: of steps to be able to get it for like

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Speaker 1: a zoo or aquarium or anything. But it's a certificate

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Speaker 1: that shows if it's humane to the animals. And learning

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01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: about that has been really interesting because I love going

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Speaker 1: there and I love how free the animals are and

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01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: how it's just like they are in the wild, and

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01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: how they help the animals, and that's definitely something that

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01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: I want to get more into, is like figuring out

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: exactly what it is and going to more places like that,

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01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: and you know, not appreciating place is like SeaWorld that

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Speaker 1: treat their animals horribly, you know, like little things like

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Speaker 1: that that I think is so interesting because I love animals,

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01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: So that was something I need to find the name

1390
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: of exactly what that little like thing is, but it's

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01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: really cool and like to get that, you have to

1392
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: go through a lot of work, and every place is

1393
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: constantly trying to outdo each other, so the bar is

1394
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: constantly being raised, which I think is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: How they treat the animals and they have to pass

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01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: a certain number of right right, right, Well, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: That's really cool and something random that I.

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Speaker 2: Decide, right, I love. Yeah. Yeah. My wife's a big

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: fan of visiting animals as much as we can, and

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01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: so she's she's kind of always led that and we've

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01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: gone to some of the randommest places in LA because

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01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,839
Speaker 2: of her. But her relationship with animals is really beautiful

1403
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: and she can like you know, start a relationship with yah. Yeah,

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: and it's really special to watch. And it's really interesting

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01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: because we went to a couple last year and she'd

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01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: always come back really like even more calm and even

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: more just still and and I And it was really

1408
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: beautiful to see just how when you're connected to nature

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01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: and we are nature and you know we're a part

1410
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: of that, but now we feel so disconnected from it. Yeah,

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01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: but animals are such a great way of reconnecting. What

1412
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: do you find I guess fulfilling or meaningful about being?

1413
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: Obviously your dogs, but with these animals, like what is

1414
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: it about it for you specifically that you appreciate about it?

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: I think it's just so peaceful and to learn so

1416
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: much Like when you go to these places, I will

1417
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: come back only talking about animal facts for like a

1418
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: month and I love it. And sometimes people are like,

1419
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: that's like, where did you even come.

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01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: Up with that?

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01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: But I think it's so cool and so interesting to

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01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: see all these animals and with each other and how

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01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: they respond to things. And I love places where it's like,

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: if they're out and you see them, that's great. If not,

1425
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 1: they don't feel like being out, that's just how it is.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's so interesting. And I literally I've

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 1: been to the San Diego Safari twice and the first

1428
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: time talked about animal facts for like two months. The

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: second time I leading up to going, that was all

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: I could talk about, and I brought. I got so

1431
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: many other people excited about because I like, but you

1432
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: don't understand how cool it is, Like you are twenty

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: feet away from a cheetah with like there's no big

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01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: fence up, you know, Like it's crazy just to see

1435
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 1: these animals just living, not worried about anything that is

1436
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: so materialistic or anything like that. I don't know. I

1437
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: just find so much joy in it.

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01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Have you been to anywhere in Africa?

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01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: I haven't, and I really want to go. I've like,

1440
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: I've seen so many videos, and so many of my

1441
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 1: friends have gone, and it just seems so cool.

1442
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've talked about this before in the podcast, but

1443
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying it because it's natural in our conversation. I

1444
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: went to Rwanda last year, Wow, and Rwanda of Revere's Gorillaz.

1445
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 2: So literally, every time there's a new gorilla in Rwanda

1446
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: that the community comes together and they name it and

1447
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 2: they have this whole ceremony for it. And so they've

1448
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: had these gorilla sanctuaries for years and so same as

1449
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 2: what you're saying, there's no fences or walls or whatever.

1450
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: It's basically the mountains and you take treks into the

1451
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: mountains and you discover gorilla and their natural habitat, and

1452
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 2: there's families. So we followed. I went three days, and

1453
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 2: one of the days we discovered a family that had

1454
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: like twenty gorillas in it, and then we discovered another

1455
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: one and you get to see the babies and the

1456
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 2: adduts and it was easily one of my favorite things

1457
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: I've done in my entire life. And it was just

1458
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: the most magical experience because you're truly in nature. The

1459
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: animals are in their habitat, so you're going into their

1460
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: home and they're gonna They're so respectful and let you

1461
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: do your thing, and at the same time you get

1462
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: to learn about them in this really intimate way. It

1463
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: was beautiful to just see how they took care of

1464
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 2: the kids, how the kids played around, how they were

1465
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: defensive if we got too close, like just everything about them.

1466
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: And the guides that we had said that you can

1467
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: also go and walk, So this was walking with gorillas,

1468
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: but they said you could go walk with elephants too,

1469
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: and me and my wife have been talking about doing that.

1470
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: We're like, I'd love to go walk with elephants, Like

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: how cool would that be? And yeah, there's all these

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: incredible experiences out there, and you know, whether it's a

1473
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: local safari or whether it's being able to go there,

1474
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah and have this experience. I definitely feel and my

1475
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: other team, someone of my team's been talking about going

1476
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: to see the Great Migration, which is what so the

1477
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: easy version of it. I'm giving a very bad explanation,

1478
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: but just to make it relatable for everyone, It's basically

1479
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,440
Speaker 2: what happens in the Lion King when all the wilderbeast

1480
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: like running across like, so that's the Great Migration. Where

1481
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: they're like stampeding across the stampede where the fast unfortunately dies.

1482
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: Like that moment is what the great migration is, and

1483
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 2: it happens every single Year's so yeah, anyway, I'm getting

1484
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 2: carried away too.

1485
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: But no, I mean it's so easy to Yeah, it

1486
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: really is.

1487
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's magical to think that these things exist

1488
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: and you can go and witness them or even whilst

1489
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: they're online or on the documentary whatever. You know.

1490
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: Well, at the San Diego Safari, they're literally like with

1491
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: the Southern hight rhinos and the Northern hight rhinos, it's

1492
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: like one of them is going extinct and they're literally

1493
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: figuring out through stem cells, like how to bring it back.

1494
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: It's so so wild and so interesting and hearing these

1495
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: people talk about it and all of the steps they're

1496
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: going through with scientists and zoologists and literally everyone to help,

1497
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, bring back this species of rhinos. It's like,

1498
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: this is so cool and has nothing to do with

1499
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: anything that I do in my normal, everyday life. But

1500
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: how interesting is that to just hear and see and

1501
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: like what that's crazy? But I don't know, I just

1502
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: think that that's so cool.

1503
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, and I hope you

1504
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 2: just keep pursuing and following all of these things that

1505
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: using a cool and you know, you're it's not that

1506
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: you don't know yourself. I wouldn't say that you don't

1507
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: know who you are. I just say that you're you're

1508
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: firmly on that path. Yeah, you're on that path of

1509
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: self discovery, and you're doing it a perfect time in

1510
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 2: your life, and you're taking every one of the right steps.

1511
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's not that you don't know who

1512
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: you are or you're confused, You're just you're just taking

1513
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: those steps and all of it's going to become more

1514
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: and more clear as you continue to take more steps. So, yeah,

1515
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: thank you for sharing the this part of the journey

1516
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: with me, because I'm hoping that in a few years

1517
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: time you come out and then you'll be like Jay,

1518
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: I figured this out and.

1519
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: These are all of my favorite things that I've decided.

1520
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hope and I hope they'll change again.

1521
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: And you know, I but I'm glad that you came

1522
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: and shared this part because this is the hardest part

1523
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: to share when you're not sure and you're figuring it out.

1524
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 2: And I'm glad that we had the opportunity to capture

1525
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: that today. Yeah, and I'm really really appreciate you sharing

1526
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: that with people because it is the hardest part to

1527
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: share when you're like, I don't know.

1528
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: I'm not quite there, but this is where I am now.

1529
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie, thank you so much. No, thank you coming

1530
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: on the show today. And we end every episode with

1531
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: a final five, and these I'm going to totally ruin

1532
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: these because I enjoy doing that. But you're meant to

1533
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: answer them in one word to one sentence maximum, but

1534
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: I will probably ask you to expand because they always

1535
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: lead to more thoughtful answers. So all right, Charlie, these

1536
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: are your final five. The first question is what is

1537
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: the best advice you've ever heard, or received or even

1538
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: given to someone.

1539
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: This is probably the only thing that keeps me sane,

1540
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad. Everything happens for a reason.

1541
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: You can't control.

1542
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: It, and that's something you hold on to it.

1543
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes me feel like I'm not going crazy.

1544
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: When have you used that the most you can explain?

1545
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,839
Speaker 1: I mean, when I feel like I have no idea

1546
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: what to do next, where I feel like everything's coming

1547
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: crashing down, this is important because it's helping me get

1548
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: to the next step of my life. And as much

1549
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: as this sucks right now, I need it and some

1550
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: of the worst parts where I feel like I'm at

1551
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: an all time low, that helped me get to that

1552
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: next step. So next time I'm feeling like that, I

1553
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: know how to. I know, first I can get myself

1554
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: out of it, and second that you know, maybe it's

1555
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal and a year I'm

1556
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: not even going to remember it.

1557
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely love that, all right. Second question, what's the worst

1558
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: advice you've ever heard or received?

1559
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 1: Probably that I need to say yes to everything because

1560
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: you don't know when this is going to end. Sometimes

1561
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: you just need to say no and take that time

1562
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:33,480
Speaker 1: for yourself.

1563
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up. So many young

1564
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: creators here.

1565
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: That overwhelm themselves, and it's you're doing a disservice to yourself.

1566
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: Give yourself time to figure out who you are.

1567
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 2: And I think you're so right. Like I've said this

1568
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: to a lot of people too, that it will only

1569
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: end when you want it to, Like nothing can end

1570
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 2: if you're if you're alive and you're creating and your building,

1571
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: like things just don't end and I think we use

1572
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: the end as a scarcity tactic or a fear tactic

1573
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: to get more out of someone or to get the

1574
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: most out of it right now, not realizing that someone

1575
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: could take a break for three years if that's what

1576
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: they wanted to do, and come back even stronger and

1577
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: bigger and better and whatever. Yeah. And I just don't

1578
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: think we allow people to have that space. And I

1579
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: think it's really unhealthy for anyone to think that if

1580
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not don't do this, I'm going to be irrelevant

1581
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's like, Actually, if you're an artist, you

1582
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: could take time out and come back in years from

1583
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 2: now and create a masterpiece.

1584
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the first like three years of my career,

1585
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: all anyone was saying was it could be over like that,

1586
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: no one's going to care about you. And I spent

1587
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: so much time. When is it going to end? Everyone

1588
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: keeps telling me it's going to end, Like do I

1589
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: want it to end? Maybe I want it to end.

1590
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: Maybe I want to break and it just to all

1591
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: be over and go back to my normal life. I've

1592
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: taken breaks, i've taken step backs, I've done everything that

1593
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: was coming to me at the moment, and it's like

1594
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: letting whether the people that are watching you are gonna

1595
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: stay or leave dictate every move you make. Those people

1596
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: that really care about you, they're not just gonna leave

1597
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: if you stop posting for a month or a week

1598
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: or however long. Like put your own mental state first.

1599
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because if you don't put your mental state first,

1600
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: then it's definitely gonna go away.

1601
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna get burnt out, and then no one's

1602
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: gonna care.

1603
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: Because you don't care exactly, or you're not gonna be

1604
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: able to put anything like you know, And if you

1605
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: look at that perspective, it's like, yeah, you just keep

1606
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: pushing and pushing and pushing. Yeah, you lose yourself and

1607
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: then you have nothing to share and then you've definitely,

1608
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, lost out. No, really really great answer. I

1609
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 2: love that question. Number three, What is the craziest room

1610
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: as you've heard about yourself? One that made you laugh

1611
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: and one that made you cry.

1612
01:22:53,960 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: Ones that make me laugh are probably the ones where

1613
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: I'll like, I'll seem super I'll see like blind items

1614
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: about myself and it's like she did this crazy thing

1615
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: at this party and it was wild and and I

1616
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: was like, didn't even go to a party that's so

1617
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: like like where did you guys? I was here and there.

1618
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: So those ones always make me laugh and they're like

1619
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: so not true and be like, Okay, it's crazy.

1620
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you said about not being at the party. Like,

1621
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: So I officiated Ben and Jen's wedding last year, and

1622
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: there was a guest list that was printed, and the

1623
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: guest list just had everyone's name on and everyone was

1624
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: like asking me like, oh, did you see this person?

1625
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: Do you see this one? I was like, they weren't there. Yeah,

1626
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 2: it was a really private wedding. Yeah, but it's like

1627
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: everyone assumes that all these people were there now that

1628
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: all these magazines had printed it. Everyone assumes that it

1629
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: was just this big celebrity wedding. It's like what it

1630
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: wasn't it was just really friends and family. It just

1631
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: makes you laugh like, yeah.

1632
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,560
Speaker 1: You guys pulled this out of nowhere.

1633
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 2: Nowhere, Like it was just crazy to me. I was like,

1634
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 2: how do you make this up? Like you know? And

1635
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: so there was no official guest list printed externally. Yeah

1636
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: all right? Uh yeah. And then one that kind of

1637
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: like got to you, or if there was one that

1638
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: like made you more emotional, well, things that make you

1639
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: more emotional generally.

1640
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: Things that make me more emotional are definitely ones that

1641
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: try to display my character in a way where you know,

1642
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: I I don't want to defend everything that I do.

1643
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to defend every rumor that comes out

1644
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: about me. But it's like to think that people think

1645
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing these things that you know are

1646
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: sometimes so horrible or you know there, especially when I

1647
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: was like sixteen, sixteen was really hard for me, and

1648
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: I would hear these grown adults every single day, Charlie

1649
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: did Charlie did that, Charlie did this. I literally it

1650
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: was actually right when I hit one hundred million. I

1651
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: think I was at the lowest mental state possible, and

1652
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: I looked so happy online, and it got to the

1653
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: point where I was I was like, I'm not doing

1654
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: this anymore, Like I physically cannot do this. Like it

1655
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: got really dark to where I was like, I don't

1656
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: even want to be here anymore. And I think back

1657
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: to those times and the grown adults that put sixteen

1658
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: year old me in that mindset, and I'm just like, like,

1659
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: you guys have kids now, like you guys are are grown,

1660
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: And first of all, never gotten an apology through a

1661
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: direct message, never got an apology or anything besides if

1662
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: it was for other people or that they want something

1663
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: from me, And I just like I wish that they

1664
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 1: could see what they did to me and how truly

1665
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: horrible they treated me, and like what if that was

1666
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: your kid? What if that was you? How would you feel?

1667
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: And like, I'm so proud of myself for getting myself

1668
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: through that, because that really, like depending on how I

1669
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 1: responded to that, could have changed the trajectory of my life,

1670
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: whether I started to cope in unhealthy ways or or

1671
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: harmed myself or did something that you know, would make

1672
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: these people feel bad. Like I'm just very glad that

1673
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: I have the people around me and also got to

1674
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: give some credit to myself was able to get out

1675
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: of that.

1676
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 2: I can't I mean even just hearing you talk about it,

1677
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: like it feels so hard and heavy, and like I

1678
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: can feel how intense it could have been, Like what

1679
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: got you through that? Like what was it that? Because

1680
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 2: at sixteen, I mean, you don't have a lot to

1681
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: pull on, Like what gets you through all of that?

1682
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 2: Especially being around you know now your family's more used

1683
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: to it, so everyone has a bit more. Yeah, it

1684
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: doesn't make it easier. Yeah, I'm not saying it makes

1685
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 2: it easier, but people are more aware of it, Yeah

1686
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: for sure. But at that time, it's like right at

1687
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:14,799
Speaker 2: the beginning, you know, it.

1688
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: Was really hard for a long time, and especially at

1689
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: that point, I showed myself in a very specific light

1690
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: and didn't want to let anyone know what was getting

1691
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: to me. And then I would go and cry on

1692
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: live And I think back to that, and I think

1693
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: it was the people that I had around me, Like

1694
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: it was getting to the point where like people were

1695
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: coming to my house to check on me, like it

1696
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: was bad, and like, I don't know if these people

1697
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: that did this, like I think they know who they are,

1698
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: but are ever going to see this? Like, first of all,

1699
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: I think I deserve an apology. Second of all, not

1700
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: that I need one because I'm content with how it

1701
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: happened whatever, But the fact that there's no accountability for

1702
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: those people, but there was so much accountability for a

1703
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: sixteen year old I think is so wild and there's

1704
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: so like, honestly, the hardest stuff to deal with was

1705
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: the people that were grown adults that were like just

1706
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: ripping on me every second of every day, like twenty

1707
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: videos like what I now look back and I'm so

1708
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: disgusted by the fact that these people like thought that

1709
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: that was okay. It's so wild, and I'm just I'm

1710
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: very thankful that I had my friends and my family

1711
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: and enough in myself to want to get through it

1712
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: and come out the other side and show these people

1713
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: that they can't ruin me. And I have more to

1714
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: show people than what I've done so far.

1715
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 2: That's so powerful and it's so no, it really is.

1716
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: It's so powerful to hear that, and it's and it

1717
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: breaks my heart hearing it too, because I totally get

1718
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 2: what you're saying in terms of just like when you

1719
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: have kids. We live in a world that wants to

1720
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: prioritize mental health, but then when we take people apart,

1721
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 2: whether they made a mistake or not, yeah, we're not

1722
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: mindful of their mental health at all. Yeah, And it's

1723
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 2: almost like if someone's made a mistake or maybe not

1724
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: even made a mistake, it's almost like, well, now we

1725
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 2: don't have to treat them as if they have mental health,

1726
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: yeah at all.

1727
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 1: Or it's like people loved me because I wasn't perfect

1728
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,839
Speaker 1: and I was authentic, but then any time I would

1729
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: mix up my words or make a mistake or do

1730
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: anything outside of what was okay for these people, it

1731
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well I hate her and everyone should

1732
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: hate her and she's a horrible person because of this.

1733
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, but what did I do? Like

1734
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: it was so hard to come to terms of the

1735
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: fact that so many people hated me and I was

1736
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: just doing my best. I was like, but I don't

1737
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: get it, Like all I do is try to please

1738
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: everyone around me, and they're not, like how do I

1739
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: do this? I'm never gonna win, And you know that's

1740
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: really hard. Like I give myself so much credit for

1741
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: how I handled this stuff the best way I knew

1742
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: how like so wild.

1743
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 2: If you ever doubt how tough you are, you just

1744
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: got to remember sixteen years oh Charlie, because she was

1745
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 2: a beast. She so tough. Like that is really really intense.

1746
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 2: It was really really intense. How have you dealt with

1747
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 2: that feeling of like trying to keep everyone else? I

1748
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: know you've talked about it before, the idea of like

1749
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 2: trying to keep everyone else afloat and you want to

1750
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: kind of let go of that pressure. Do you feel

1751
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: like you've let go of it or do you feel

1752
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 2: like you're letting go of it?

1753
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: I think I am in certain aspects, but also leaning

1754
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: into it a little, you know, like maybe not what

1755
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 1: the internet wants, but what does my family want? What

1756
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: do my friends want? What does my boyfriend want? You know,

1757
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: like those people, what do my true fans want? What

1758
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: do they want me to put out that and make

1759
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: them happy? Because I'm doing it for these people, And

1760
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 1: maybe if I'm feeling a little bit burnt out right now,

1761
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I really think back to, well, this is the reason

1762
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: that I started doing it, you know, but also understanding

1763
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: that I have to listen to myself and what I need. Yeah,

1764
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 1: figuring out that balance, which I don't think i'll ever

1765
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: truly get the hang of because it's always changing, but

1766
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: at least acknowledging it.

1767
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: All right. Question four and five. Last two questions. What's

1768
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 2: something new that you're trying to learn this year or

1769
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,919
Speaker 2: something that a skill that you're trying to develop.

1770
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: I want to get better at packing and like traveling. Yeah,

1771
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 1: and it's such a stressor for me. Literally every single

1772
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 1: time before I leave for a trip, I will have

1773
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:57,959
Speaker 1: a little mental breakdown, full like tears everything. It's a

1774
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: that's another control thing and a very obsessive, compulsive thing

1775
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: that I do because I like to have my stuff

1776
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: around me. I like to have my things. I like

1777
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: to have everything that I could possibly need. Like even

1778
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 1: in my purse, I have everything that I could possibly

1779
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: need for if I go on a three day vacation, like,

1780
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 1: it just causes me so much stress that I would

1781
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: like to be able to take a overnight trip and

1782
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: just like pack and go without worrying so much. Like

1783
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: that would be the dream.

1784
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great I think that's a great scale

1785
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 2: that I wish everyone wants to add. Right, Definitely, there

1786
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: are great package and they are a bad package. Yeah,

1787
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 2: and I'm a bad packer for sure, And I get that.

1788
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Do what my wife does. My wife just takes six suitcases,

1789
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 2: she says.

1790
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 1: Literally, my sister, she will go places pack like an

1791
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: hour before she's like only brought one shoe. Yeah, how

1792
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 1: how do you do this? This is insane?

1793
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. I love it all right, great, Charlie.

1794
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 2: Final question, It is the final question. If you could,

1795
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 2: and you take your time with this, if you could

1796
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: create one rule or one law that everyone in the

1797
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,799
Speaker 2: world had to follow, what would it be.

1798
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: Lead with empathy. Don't be so hard on every single thing,

1799
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 1: every situation, everything, no matter what. Like you never ever

1800
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: know what someone's truly going through. Even you can ask

1801
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: me what's wrong, and I could tell you one thing,

1802
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,959
Speaker 1: and maybe deep down it's something else that I'm embarrassed

1803
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: to tell you about. Like you just never know the

1804
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: struggle that someone's dealing with when they're by themselves. So

1805
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: just be a little more empathetic. I feel like COVID really,

1806
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, caused people to react fast. Just take a

1807
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 1: step back, you know, hear people out. Just calm down,

1808
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: Calm down a little bit.

1809
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so needed for ourselves and others. And it's

1810
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: amazing how many of us we will know we need

1811
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 2: that world. But it's almost like the system and society

1812
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 2: and the way it works is set up to make

1813
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: us not be that. Yeah, right, Like we all want that,

1814
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: and we will say that, and then something happens in

1815
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 2: the press and then everyone jumps on it.

1816
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 1: And I have to say that to myself too, keep

1817
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: yourself in check, you know.

1818
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 2: Definitely, Charlie. I love how this conversation has been so

1819
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: fun and deep. Yeah, and like random and unique, and

1820
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 2: I love that because that's what all of us are, right.

1821
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 2: I think if you try and have a conversation that's

1822
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: just deep or just cool or just whatever, it doesn't work.

1823
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 2: But when you just get to know someone three point sixty's,

1824
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: it's a bit quirky, it's a bit funny. It's it

1825
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 2: was super thoughtful and insightful, and I'm so glad that

1826
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 2: it was truly you. I hope you felt that way.

1827
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, this was refreshing for me.

1828
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad, and thank you so much for trusting

1829
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 2: me and being here. And I'm so grateful. And everyone's

1830
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 2: been listening or watching, whether you're walking your dogs, because

1831
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 2: I know you do that, whether you're at the gym,

1832
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 2: whether you're driving to and from work, or whether you're

1833
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 2: editing a video. Right now, I want to say thank

1834
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 2: you to you for Liz litening, and I hope that

1835
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 2: you're going to share your highlights of so many great insights, thoughts,

1836
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 2: just reflections I think that Charlie shared with us today.

1837
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: Make sure you share the ones that stood out to you.

1838
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 2: Tag both me and Charlie as well, whether you using

1839
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 2: TikTok x or Instagram, because I love seeing what you

1840
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 2: related to and what you connected to. There were so

1841
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: many parts today I felt when I was listening, I

1842
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I get that, Like I hear that,

1843
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 2: and I want to know what you heard and what

1844
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 2: you understood and what you learned. Charlie, thank you so

1845
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 2: much again. I hope you'll come on many, many more times.

1846
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 1: Yes for having me. Seriously, this is really nice to

1847
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: be able to have the space to talk about anything.

1848
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Well. You're always welcome. Thank you, always welcome. Thank you.

1849
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 2: If you love this episode, you will also love my

1850
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 2: interview with Kendall Jenna on setting boundaries to increase happiness

1851
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 2: and healing You're inner child.

1852
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: You could be reading something that someone is saying about

1853
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: you and being like, that is so unfair because that's

1854
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: not who I am and that really gets to me sometimes.

1855
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 1: But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like,

1856
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: but I know who I am. Why does any thing

1857
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 1: else matter